NHRH Chapter 37 | Two Underpaid Master Healers Talk Money
Claudia and Meghan talk money, healing, scarcity and self-worth in the context of spiritual and energetic work.
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Summary
The video is a deep and heartfelt conversation between two healers, Claudia and the host, focusing on themes of scarcity, money, healing, and self-worth within the context of spiritual and energetic work. Claudia shares her personal journey of transitioning from pharmaceutical translation work—which she felt conflicted about due to its ethical implications—to pursuing her true passion as a healer. Despite the joy healing brings her, Claudia struggles with charging for her services and dealing with financial scarcity, compounded by family dynamics and societal beliefs around money and value.
The discussion delves into the nature of money as an artificial, cumbersome system and the psychological and societal conditioning that equates worth with financial success. Both speakers affirm the importance of owning one’s value as a healer and the necessity to “play the game” of money to sustain their work and support their calling. They explore common fears around arrogance, corruption, and indebtedness linked to charging for healing services and dismantle these stories by framing money as merely a resource or “Monopoly money” within a flawed system.
The conversation also touches on the spiritual and emotional challenges healers face, including navigating skepticism from family and religious groups, dealing with manipulative people, and resisting the societal pressures that prioritize money over purpose. The speakers encourage embracing abundance, healing internal blocks around receiving money, and holding the vision of being a resource and multiplier of healing energy.
Ultimately, the dialogue is an empowering call to healers to claim their worth confidently, balance giving with receiving, and participate in a shift from scarcity to abundance—not only materially but spiritually and energetically.
Highlights
🌱 Claudia’s journey from pharmaceutical translation to healing highlights the conflict between ethical integrity and financial survival.
💰 Money is portrayed as an artificial, cumbersome system—“Monopoly money” that doesn’t define true worth.
🔥 The fear and guilt around charging for healing services stem from deep societal conditioning and stories of arrogance, corruption, and indebtedness.
🌟 Healers are encouraged to own their value confidently, charging what they’re worth to sustain their work and amplify their impact.
🚫 Skepticism and rejection from family, religion, and society are common hurdles for healers pursuing their true path.
🤝 Balancing giving freely and receiving payment is part of healing the money story and creating sustainable spiritual work.
🌈 The conversation emphasizes the transformative power of abundance consciousness and the shift from scarcity mindset to an energetic flow of resources.
Key Insights
💡 The Conflict Between Purpose and Financial Reality: Claudia’s story illustrates a common dilemma among healers and conscious workers—pursuing heart-centered work that doesn’t easily translate into financial stability, especially when it conflicts with previous roles tied to unethical industries. This tension often leads to scarcity, self-doubt, and difficult choices, highlighting the need for new models of sustainable spiritual work.
💡 Money as an Artificial Construct: The discussion reframes money not as an ultimate measure of value but as a flawed societal tool—“Monopoly money”—which is neither inherently good nor bad. This perspective helps dismantle the emotional charge around money and encourages healers to see financial exchange as a necessary, neutral resource flow rather than a moral dilemma.
💡 Healing Internal Blocks to Receiving: Fear of arrogance, corruption, or indebtedness when charging for healing services is identified as a key internal block rooted in family conditioning and cultural narratives. The speakers advocate for conscious healing of these fears at the energetic and bodily level, showing that embracing one’s worth is not arrogance but an authentic expression of natural abundance.
💡 The Zero-Sum Game vs. Gift Economy: The traditional scarcity mindset, where giving money means losing and receiving means owing, is challenged by the concept of gift economy and natural law abundance. This shift allows healers to give freely while also receiving joyfully, creating a win-win scenario that reflects the interconnectedness of all beings.
💡 The Role of Healers as Multipliers of Abundance: Healers are positioned as key channels for transforming energy and resources in the world. Their work not only heals individuals but also purifies and converts “blood money” (money associated with suffering or unethical systems) into positive, life-affirming energy that benefits the collective.
💡 Navigating External Skepticism and Rejection: Many healers face lack of support or outright opposition from family members, religious communities, and society at large, often because these groups prioritize conventional success and money over spiritual purpose. The conversation underscores the importance of resilience, self-trust, and alignment with one’s soul purpose in the face of these challenges.
💡 Practical Strategies for Sustainable Healing Work: The dialogue explores practical ideas such as live streaming group healings with voluntary donations, tiered pricing for diverse audiences, and blending free offerings with paid services. These strategies aim to expand reach, create multiple income streams, and maintain joy and authenticity in healing work.
Additional Themes Explored
The emotional toll and liberation of leaving unethical work behind, despite financial hardship.
The societal pressure to equate self-worth with income and “success.”
The healing journey as a process of dismantling false identities and stepping into authentic power.
The importance of community and mutual support among healers.
The spiritual sovereignty of healers who refuse to be controlled or defined by external systems or beliefs.
This conversation is a rich resource for anyone navigating the intersection of spirituality, healing, and economics, offering compassionate validation and pragmatic insight for moving from scarcity and self-doubt into abundance and empowerment.
Transcript with Timestamps
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Hey everybody, welcome. Welcome. Randolph and Miriam and Karen and Republic Republica. Hi. Hi, Wildfire Rose. Hi Jojo. Welcome. We're going to talk scarcity and money and stuff today. Um Randall says, "Hello ladies. You're already having fun heading south from De Moines to Witchita. Still in those plain states. I know. I right where you are with that drive not long ago. Hi Janna. So we're going to get into that. We're going to have another beautiful healing conversation which as
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a reminder we this is everybody's healing the same stuff. I was talking with Vosi today and I'm just we're just talking. She's like has a question and I'm answering but anything she would say and anything you say Claudia is healing me. Like there's no it's just we're both portals. for both channels and every single time I have one of these conversations on screen or not, uh, I'm healed. So, thank you. No, thank you. Yeah. Um, if you all haven't caught Claudia's, um, most recent similar
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conversation, it's chapter 34, the lie of guilt and the truth of anger. Stunningly beautiful. So, go check that out. Um, if you want to have a healing conversation like this, if you're stuck on something and you have a belief that's just like this, again, it's you and everybody, welcome to the club. Call me or DM me and uh and I'll have you on and we'll we'll go through it. Um, tomorrow I have a uh little updates and things and some things I want to share. Um, but I also thought it would
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be a good day for like an open Q&A. So, if you have questions, the new method is to throw them in the questions chat on my page. So, any questions that you want to ask about healing, about what we talked about today, about the kindreds, about the earthfield meditation, whatever it is, um, let's, uh, let's chat. So, throw those questions in or just show up tomorrow and ask them. On Thursday, Doc Smith's coming back. He will be talking about Jing Palace and a little more of the skull um and spine movements that he
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does. I went to his live stream today at 9:00 a.m. It was great. Um he's been doing 9:00 a.m. Pacific time every day this week and I had my rice bag on my head for a good hour today and I felt great. I really felt great. I was doing I was I was just doing all my movements. I made my breakfast and my coffee with my 11 or 12 pound bag of rice on my head. I didn't go on my my walk because it was like it was a little much. But I am getting used to um moving with it and doing things. So I got to recommend it. I got to
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recommend be like uh women in Africa are our our grand our foremothers. Hi Andy. Okay. It'd be good. Great. Um, and then Friday this week, I'm gonna take off. I'm gonna not do the radio hour for a day. I'm gonna take a day off and I'm gonna take I think a week off in June. Um, the sol the solstice week, whatever that week is, 16th or something like that. Just FYI. So, I won't be here Friday. Be here tomorrow and Thursday. And yeah, just felt like I wanted to work on the people's trust stuff and who
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knows do what whatever I might do. I don't know. So, that's that. Okay, welcome everybody. We're going to just get into it. I'm probably not going to check the chat until later, but if you have questions and comments, please throw them in there. So, we'll just see how it flows. We have no plans here. So, all right, Claudia, what's what's bugging you? Where are you caught? Um, okay. So I remember that you said that if you follow your the your joy um you know like abundance is gonna uh
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follow but I I think that my story is like exactly the opposite. Yeah. Um, so you know, as you know, I've been a translator for many, many years. And then I I've always like my my true passion is to be a healer, right? It's just like something that absolutely lights me up and working with people and but I have a really hard time charging for it. Um, very very hard time. And um so anyway, I like translations, you know, naturally are it's an industry that's dying because of AI and automated translation and
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everything. Um but more than that um it was really really really hard for me uh to to continue to work for the pharmaceutical industry and I felt like I was like prostituting myself literally in exchange for money. Yep. And so, um, I enrolled in this course, uh, which was like super super super overpriced to learn to how to, you know, like set up a business, right? Um, for healers. And I did get a lot out of it. But my my main um the main reason that I that I enrolled in that course is because I
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thought that that would be like a way to distribute the holograms, you know, like create a network because this isn't something that you can really market on Instagram, right? And and I'm not marketing it anyway. I'm not selling it, right? Yep. And um so I did get a lot out of the that course but um when I enrolled in that course uh like a lot of things started to happen. I received this well I had already received like a label for the for one of the one of these products right and um and um I'm like an overachiever and
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over responsible and so I didn't send it back and so I you know just said okay so every single product that has this label on it may it not you know like all the side effects just go away and um but then Um, tell tell I I I don't think I totally understand what you mean by label and product. The label of the of the Madna vaccine. Oh, got it. Got it. Okay. Okay. Um, and then I received a really really huge project from the uh Melinda and Bill Gates Foundation and I didn't I I accepted it but I
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didn't know that it was for them. And when I opened it, this was in October um of 2023, I think, or 2022. 2022. And so I um I opened it and when I saw that it was for them, I tried to I tried to I tried to do it and I just started throwing up and you know, I just couldn't and I started shaking and it wasn't even for one of these products. it was for another pharmaceutical and so I unclaimed it which is like really like that was a first for me and then just you know like um I started like like I I I wasn't receiving
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a lot of work and so you know I was in this course and they were telling me you know you have to well they were telling all of us you know you have to do what lights you up and da da and so a friend of mine said Well, if you if you quit your job, like what's the difference? You're not making enough money anyway, right? And this way you're going to be dedicating all of your energy into this. And so, um, like a really funny thing happened because I was working on this project, you know, for another
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company, for another pharmaceutical that wasn't involved like with the with the vaccines or anything. And so that I was like kind of tricking myself, right? Uh saying, "Okay, so well, at least I'm not working for them." And um and so like five different times I would go and and turn my computer on and like the the the the screen was just glitching and I had to reinstall and install the software like five times and then you have to do like a QA like quality assurance and that software
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wasn't working. Anyway, I I had to deliver it before 4:00 a.m. and at 2:30 a.m. I was finally able to and just as I delivered it, I got this notification from YouTube from a channel that I had not subscribed to. And so I said, "This is weird." And I watched the video and it was a compilation of all the companies, all the pharmaceutical companies of all the settlements. um that they have been made to pay. And the biggest settlement that has ever been paid was for the company that I had
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just delivered the project for because they marketed uh an anti-depressant for um for adolescent, you know, they marketed to to teenagers knowing that it increases suicidal ideation. And my son tip. I'm sorry. Right. Yep. Yep. And so I said, I mean, like the the universe is whacking me and whacking me and whacking me over the head. Like I really need right to start listening. And so the next day I wrote a letter of resignation and I talked to this person and to the vendor manager. I I worked for
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a huge like international uh translation agency. And so um she said well you we could send you you know like other subjects or whatever. Um and um you know like and I said the thing is that I will still be supporting them you know because you work for a company that supports them. And so I um I did like a video um like that's called a public apology. So I I I resigned. You know I had just one other client that I still do that had nothing to do with pharmaceuticals. Um but they don't send me, you know,
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like they send me work every now and then. And so anyway, um it was so freeing. It was so freeing. But then I dug myself into the deepest deepest deepest deepest financial hole I have ever been in. And I'm still trying to claw my way out of it. Even though you know like my sister um she helped me one of my sisters that we hadn't been talking for four years um she helped me with the credit card debt but um it it was so freeing but then I you know I started applying for like debt started to increase. I asked these
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people from the course if I could drop out and they said no because I had already signed a contract. Um and um and so you know I started you know I I did for for a while I did get I don't like to call them clients but people who would come to me you know for cleansings or attachment removals or whatever and I would tell them about the holograms but those you know and they would receive them but then nobody would share them and um so I I I didn't really uh like like the purpose why I enrolled in this
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course it didn't really work out and um and then you know I did I I did start to get um like I said like people who were coming to me but um it's like very you know it's more word of mouth right I mean like you can't you can't say like oh I'm an ND um removal expert on Instagram I mean people. I mean, you know, if if I saw if I needed somebody to do a cleansing, I would not go on Instagram. No. Right. No. In fact, going on Instagram, you need the cleansing. Lot of entities over there.
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And so I was um I was like so deep into you know, like like I I I started um I was even thinking of selling my house, uh my home, but then I had nowhere to go really. Um and then like I would be paying more just to rent like a one-bedroom apartment, but what I'm paying for a mortgage um because prices have gone up and so it really didn't make sense. But, you know, I tried to refinance my home, my mortgage, get a second mortgage because I had posted losses the year before. They said no. Um, I can't even
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get like a personal loan, etc. Right. And so I um uh I I ended up having to go back to translations because I was, you know, I was um I was applying to other jobs and nothing and nothing and nothing. And I was I was even door dashing. This is a funny story. Um, I was door dashing and I would make $25 and then spend $32 on gas, right? And um, but one day I I went to pick up an order and I went and it was a liquor store and I hadn't been, you know, doing anything but around the crystals or anything for like six months
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now. And um when I came back to the car, there were three crystals on the driver's seat. And so another whack, right? She's not subtle. She's not subtle. And so I needed to make money because you know like so um I I asked my my sister um for a loan and she said no. And so there's like this whole the my other sister the reason that we stopped um that she stopped talking to me is because there was a misunderstanding. um around an inheritance, right? Uh what what our father, you know, it's it's a
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long story and I don't want to get it's not important, but the thing is that um the house where my mother was living, she was supposed to get like uh you know like what they call in Mexico, it's like like use and enjoyment like like lifelong, right? but she decided to sell the home. And so part of that money were supposed to go to us and she was got the other part, right? But she kept all the money. And so um when I asked my sister uh for for if she could give me a loan or well if she
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could talk to her husband and um and she said no. Um she said why don't you ask our mom for your part of the inheritance? And so I did and my mother said, "I just want like with a really really angry voice, she said, I just want to make it very clear that this is the very last time that you're getting money from me." And it wasn't even that much of, you know, it wasn't even enough to pay my credit card credit. She was going to make you pay emotionally. Yeah. Uh but anyway, I did
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and then she she wrote, you know, to the three of us, we're three sisters. Um she wrote to the three of us that she had already given me my part just so everybody was, you know, and so that's why my other sister contacted me and she helped me out, right? But I'm still not making enough money to um to make ends meet like to for my basic basic basic, right? And um and so um what lights me up is just like it's just like I I feel like it's not you know I do I do charge but then like at
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this course they would tell me oh my god you're you know you're you're not helping healers and you know because you charge so little that um then like sort of like I make them look bad or that I'm giving giving away my work for free and I don't know, I just have like a really hard time um charging for it. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. And I would love, you know, I would love to be able to just do that. Um I would love it. That's what really really lights me up. But yeah, cool. So that's my story.
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Thank you. Where are you at like right now? Do you have are you is it just healing work as you get it? Um any other employment? Well, I'm translating. You're just you're Oh, you are? Oh, that's right. You're translating. So, what do you And it's it's pharma. That's your train. You know, lately it's been um it's been Well, because that's another thing. when I when I call this agency again. Um it took me six months to get my account reactivated because it
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just wouldn't work. [Laughter] We're back to back to that. I know it just went and then they they they were charging they charge you to use their software which is really really outdated and they were charging me twice and I wasn't even getting work. So I was paying to not get work to not get my account reactivated. It was like I mean really you can't make this stuff up. No, right and it's also like a lot like uh like a family thing, right? Um like like my sister, the one that I
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asked alone from and my mother, the day that I told them that um that I was, you know, going to go back to translating, they were like, "Oh my god." Yeah. Like you were so stupid doing that. Like how did you even It was like It was such a stupid thing to do, right? And then when I finally, you know, I'm well, I'm I'm I'm getting more work from this other client that I had um when I told them that I was going to be on your show and um on your on your radio show, the both of them said, "Oh, so that does
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that mean that you're that you're um going to stop translating again?" Mhm. And it's like, no, no, it doesn't mean that. Yeah. Yeah. Got it. So, your whole family is uh except my sister. Yeah. Except the sister that doesn't really we we haven't talked about, you know, she just helped me, but we haven't really talked about the past four years and what happened. So, yeah. But similar to your mother where there's not there's not real support there. They're not
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energetic support. They're not They don't believe in you. They don't hold up your dreams for you. Exactly. And that's the and from my mother I understand it but from my other sister I don't really because like she believes in in this stuff and she has been healed by it and and her son and and her husband and it's like like they they think that this is like a pastime like or that it's not really important and Um, I mean, I don't I don't want to sound like arrogant or anything, but you
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should be way more like a thousand times more arrogant, which is just to say to stand to to stand on business, to stand on what you offer, which is unfathomably helpful. Like, you're in a stratosphere by yourself. It's like like like it's stratospheric what you're offering which is why nobody can understand it. It like scramles everybody's brain. You know what I mean? My sister I mean my sister was vaccine injured. Her child was vaccine injured. Her husband was vaccine injured. Yes. And it's like you
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you want to dedicate your life to this like that's so stupid. As if there's a as if as if as who you are, there's a better thing to devote your life to. Like name something better. Yeah. Well, name for them naming something better would be it's money, right? Making money. And that's the god of this world. That's the val that's the highest value in this insane world. Yeah. And even though they have a lot of money and they could like be angel investors or whatever, right? Um
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they it's just like not important to them. Yeah. What I'm doing is not important. And that was I think the that was like the the hardest thing because it's like my family just doesn't doesn't get me at all. I know. I'm so sorry. I've been there. I get it. I get it. I get it. Yep. Yep. And money is more important to them. And money is more important. And the thing is that I don't know if my sister, but because they have helped me a lot. I do have to say that. Um, you know, they they've
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paid my children's tuition and everything. So, that's huge, huge, huge. I'm very very grateful. Um, but my mother, I think it's because she doesn't want me to ask her for money again. That's the real thing, right? She wants me being able to to meet my own need. [Music] Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yeah. Well, and they don't see what you see. They don't know the value. So, they just go, "Well, the value is right. this. They're just in the story that money is what we're
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doing here. That's that's the purpose of life, right? And and it's fear that drives that, but they're in that spell. And so it just it's just plugandplay. It's like, well, wherever you make money, go translate again. Period. End of discussion. It doesn't it doesn't even penetrate when you help the vaccine injury. It doesn't even it doesn't penetrate the story because they're they're just in the story. It's like they're wearing this virtual reality
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like we all are. helmet and they they don't see through it, which is what we're talking about with your mother, too, right? Just there's no access there. She's she's lost. She's like literally lost in space in a virtual reality helmet that isn't real. And you're like, "Hey, here's reality." And there she's floating away. There's no access, you know, and we've all been there. We've all like been in La La Land with our story. And the the story here
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in this realm is this story of money. As if money exists, as if time exists. It's the same delusion. And we're and we're just floating around in this delusion. And it's extremely powerful because everything everything everything is about it. Just cranking out. It's our productivity is going to crank out money. And that's how we're going to be safe is through money. And that's how we're going to get fulfilled is through money. And that's how we're going to and
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none. And it's not true for anybody, but it's the spell. I know. And my father, he would measure, you know, like he was a really nice guy, but he was a he he he grew up, right? Um, and like many years ago. And so he would measure the the worth of someone by how much money they made, if they had a job. And it's funny because like every single boyfriend that I ever had did not have a pot to piss in. Like literally like I was and just a couple of years ago I um I honestly I I realized that you know I was the one who
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would pay for I would go pick them up and drive them and pay for every time we went out and whatever. Right. which in Mexico was really it was like backwards because it it was supposed to be the other way around. And um and just a few years ago I I realized that um that that I was actually using money to manipulate them because I you know I thought that that way they would not leave me. Yes. Yes. It was unconscious, you know. It was it I but I just realized that a few years ago. Yep. Yep. Yep. Absolutely. And and this the
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pain of unworthiness, right? Like worth I let's just even break down that word. This idea of worth I I literally just want to like chuck it into the stratosphere forever. Who like let's let's stop measuring let's stop measuring worthiness in any capacity. every there's inherent value in literally everything. It's intrinsic value. There is there's no separate being that's going to like measure worth. This is this is how we all got insane, right? That some that something
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has value other than inside of itself, other than as it is, right? Like that there's there's a concept of value, a concept of worth, a concept of money. It it is the delusion. No animal has that delusion. Imagine imagine just think of your children, right? Before they before they said this behavior was good and worthy and will get you money and this behavior doesn't. It's like we were all free and we would have just the level of value we would create which is just we would just create. We
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would just create and create and create. We are all geniuses. We are all creative geniuses. We are all moved toward fulfillment. The level of abundance that would be unleashed were we all to stop measuring from some arbitrary concept from some authority who says this has value and this doesn't. That's the enslaver mentality. That's the separation mentality. It's total insanity. So it's all tied together that that money, time, uh separation, you know, productivity, this just we've been
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made into machine parts of the machine. Mhm. And so we just have to like take out worth and take out these stories and then and then we we still have money in this society, but we have access then to what lights us up. What where the where the endlessly resourcing stream of abundance inside of us is, right? Which is doing healing work. right now. I want to validate the hell out of I don't like to to to uh have people pay for it. I'm with you 100%. I don't like money. I I find it ridiculous. It's so ridiculous to me.
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So, I'm like, so I'm giving away everything away for free, right? And we still live in this society and so I have my business where I charge, right? But the reason I have energy for a daily live stream every day is because I love it, right? And then some subscribers happen and then word of mouth I get another client and then you know and on and on and have more resource to build the people's trust which will be a bank of resource of people just having fun together and we just we're just we're building that
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right. So um so so just so we we're let's let's pretend it's not really pretend but let's let's just think of money is just resource. It's just it's it's just it's our art artificial really stodgy really stupid um story of resource but so it's a it's a very handicapped cumbersome stupid stupid way in way in which we spread resources right I think it's like it's just the dumbest thing I can't get over how dumb money is I can I will never get over it it's abstract
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it's it's real it's not real there's nothing real about it No, but like I'm okay with like a concept that isn't real, but that's like a cool concept. Do you know what I mean? Like it's like like a good movie or something. I don't know. But like it's such it's such a bad movie. It's such a bad story. It's it's actually it's a horror show. So, um, yeah, there's no reality to it, but there's a little bit of a we could say it's,
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um, it is it is our story of resource for now. So, the best way to tap into that story to to get some money is going to be to be in your stream of resource. And I think of so I don't I don't I I I know the the those those those healing business people very well and I'm they're they got a lot of they got a lot of issues and it's it's a scam in and of itself. I get it. And it's not that it's not that like healers need more value in the marketplace. It's I think of it
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as conversion of like that that um it's like Robin Hood. It's like the the uh you like you and I we our people should be the ones with the most resources because we are tapped into resource. We are tapped into source. We are we are literally doing what source does. We are just doing what our heart's desire is. We love to give. I love to do this. We should be the ones with all of this cumbersome resource at least temporarily, right? It's like it's like give them the give them what
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we're pretending is resource. Give them the monopoly money so they can go so they can be freed to tap to to to tap into their real source as much as they want, right? It's like, how great would it be for me to not have to think about a bill or whatever, you know what I mean? Like, oh my god. Yeah. And this goes back a little bit to money and to women and like we were never meant to be the ones gathering the resources and like working, you know? It's like forgetting money in general. It's like we're the
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ones who who spend the resources. We're the ones who who actually resource. So, it's like we get the resource. We get the food that the masculine goes and gathers and we are fed and we resource everyone, right? So women is just a feminine people dealing with money is just it's already backward. Money's backward and then us dealing with it is backward. It's all just a nightmare. And and if we pan out and we go, okay, we have this cumbersome system. If you if you are really honest,
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you as pure awareness and you look around and go, who should have this this monopoly money to play with? Who should have this cumbersome resource? I'm going to choose you. I'm going to put it in your hands, not Bill Gates hands, not anybody else's hands. Like, you would be at the top of the list. Do you know what I mean? Where that's where you belong. This is the last will be first, first will be last, right? Mhm. And so we have to we have to be in in in the game in this transference
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game. I really energetically see that we're in we're in the great transfer. It's happening. But we have to do our part. We actually have to put our like skin in the game to say transfer to me because and stake your claim because you you have earned your spot as one of our like you are the resource. You are channeling source. You are literally ch channeling mana from heaven, healing from heaven. You should have all the money. That's just true. These are facts. This isn't like up for debate.
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It's just like when I hear you, it's like break it breaks it just breaks the story, right? So, and and I get it and I'm I'm gonna keep coming at you and everybody and have anybody else agree on here a test testify that like of course you should have the resource because you will resource it. You are one of the multiplier. Like that's what women are. That's what women who are tapped in really are, right? We multiply it times a thousand. And that's true about me. And you've watched that with me, right? Like
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you you'd give me 500 bucks an hour so that I do this, right? Yeah. So that's the conversion I'm talking about, right? It's like a it's like it's like converting it from, you know, dollars to euros. It's converting it from the fake resource to real resource and you are like so it's like it's like it's like each one of us has a role in that transfer. We're we're standing on that threshold. So every dollar you get from Empire from somebody's hands who who got
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it, you know, all of all of us have blood money. There's nobody who whose money isn't blood money. Pharmaceuticals, sure, you could say it's worse, but it's all blood money. I went out to eat last night and it is like I never thought of that. Yeah, I went had a burger and fries last night. It's blood money, right? I mean, I can't. It's like I I I I'm not like I don't know what farm that came from. I don't know, you know, and what am I going to do? Never have a burger and fries again? I mean, I
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could I rarely It's a rare rare occasion that I don't just cook at home, but and I do my and you know, I eat as 100% organic, but I'm whatever. But like even that, right, the plastic packaging that's put in the organic farm that, you know, they got the subsidy from the government that, you know, there's no way around. It's all connected. So, that's like a huge aha moment for me because um it was a really really really hard pill to swallow. Going back to to translating, I mean, it's it's
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been it hasn't really been a lot. Like I said, I haven't um but still and another thing, another whack from the universe. So, I started applying to other translation agencies. Mhm. And um the first one, well, I had been, you know, going back and forth with one that wanted to pay me like half of what I, you know, what I charge. And um and then finally this one said, "Yeah, you're you're like the perfect candidate." um just you know send us everything and da da da and we need to hire you now
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because we have this really huge huge um project and um guess what it was for [Laughter] just worse than pharma or guns. No, no, no. It was pharma. It was It was pharma. It was far. It was also pharma, right? Because it's always pharma. It was pharma. Uh, but it was Oh, it's pharma. Oh, it's pharma. It was the package insert. Yeah. For the for the mRNA product from the company that starts with a P. Mhm. It was like seriously like seriously. And when I got that, I started shaking. Like literally,
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I started shaking and I didn't know what to do. And so I said, "Okay, so God, please forgive me. I really need to eat." and I need to feed my children. And so I said, "Okay, so I'm just going to trick myself into thinking that maybe somebody will read this if I translate it, right?" And they will decide not to take. That's good. Yeah, that's true. And so I I answer them and I said, "Yes, I'm available." And um crickets. And so two hours later, no,
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two days later, I said, you know, like I sent it from another email account just in case, I don't know, my other email account went to spam. Hey, um, I am available for this project. Crickets. And they never contacted me again, ever. It's like, okay, I got it. Like, I got it, but then then help me win the lottery or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, exactly. So, so I I want to affirm both of it's like it's like so when you when you were like I went you know reminded me that we you went back to uh
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translating I was like fine good because I just I just think conversion I was like better you have the money better you have the money better because somebody else is going to do it. Yeah. And it's better Claudia has the money right. So it's so both are good. So have your translation time whatever you want. It's better you. It's that you have the money. And yes, you're getting kicked around to claim your real heart's desire, which is to be a healer and to ask for and not ask, but let's
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like just stake state how much you're worth. You know, it's like, you know, I'm like there's nobody I won't call out, right? There's no there's no coach, there's no spiritual teacher, there's no healer. I'm like, who's who's like, you know, makes big the big bucks, you know? Um, so so I like I so if if I if if we go if we imagine it's all a marketplace, which is which is the nightmare, but let's just let's be honest about the marketplace. We manage everything in the
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marketplace, find a better coach than me. I I I you know, so then how much is that worth? How much am I actually worth an hour? Right? So, I I charge 500, but it's like there's there's people out there who charge 2,000 and they they suck. They don't they don't they're selling you a [ __ ] plant medicine ceremony or whatever they're doing. Whatever [ __ ] they're selling you, it's all a grift. Um, you know, so so whatever. So, it's that's the monopoly money thing. It's like
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whatever. Okay. 500 bucks. So, but it's it's a it's at least a little bit of a steep wall so that I don't get anybody who isn't serious, right? And I get people and I get with people with money who can afford that who I can convert the funds and I can convert them, right? I'm doing conversion therapy. I'm waking you up from the matrix, right? And then I would say, you're right there with me. You cured someone's cancer. You've healed them from the spike protein. You've done unbelievable
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things. You are sitting like Randolph is always like it's like it's like I I'm like Randall can you you know spread the word on this stuff. He's like you know or whatever and he's like you're it's like you're telling me just here's a pile of gold and then go play with it. And I'm like that's how I feel about you. It's like you're telling me you're just like here take this pile of gold and and you're like I'm like I'm not supposed to pay you for
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it. I get it. You want to just give away the pile of gold. We do that. We will do that too. And If you are dialing, if you were taking your time to do that, who's better than you? Who's better than you in this marketplace? You're not. You know the marketplace. So do I. Yeah. I haven't heard of anybody who can actually like take away the genetic instructions, the material. Exactly. So then however many medications somebody takes for however many years and however many spiritual teachers they go to and however many
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things and whatever however many much money they spend for what you can do for them in an hour in two hours and however many sessions right so I get it I understand I get I get not wanting to charge and I you might want to do a model like this where there's stuff you give away but it's the one-on-one that you pay for. You know, that's that's what I'm doing. That's what you're doing. Okay. Well, you might want to do more live streams or something. Like the crystals, they're in
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exchange for a voluntary donation. Yeah. But then they're not getting there. The crystals that I'm sending. Oh, they're not reaching people. They're getting lost. Interesting. In cyberspace. So, what I'm I'm I'm thinking of doing something else like, you know, having them get the crystals and I'll charge, you know, I'll charge them um yeah, at a distance. So, I think that that that would be a good idea. But then I get people that say, you know, I say it's for a voluntary
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donation and they say, "Well, I'm kind of poor right now." And so, I get it, right? Because there are people that, you know, they if I send it through like first class mail with a customs form, it's about $20. And there's people who don't even have $20. Yeah. Like I don't have the $20 to send it to pay it out of my pocket, right? And so so that's the thing. Let's think through another So, so what do you what is the fun the most fun thing? What's where is
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it? Where are you so resourced in doing this? What do you What do you love to do? I love to do healings and cleansings and taking entities off of people. Great. Would Great. Great. Great. Do would you would you want to do a live stream where you do that? Uh I can't do the healing um that that specific healing. um because I can't record it yet. Um so here's the thing, and that's something that I've try I've been trying to get around um or or find like a work around. But the thing is
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that anything that can be used for good can be used to harm. Mhm. And by sending it like leaving it on a recording, it gets then people can can use it. Okay. And so you don't have to post the recording. You could just do the live stream and not post it. That I could do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then take and then and then you have a you have a subscribe button so people can subscribe and but you also have a buy me a coffee button. Right. So we come get a cleansing. It's like there's 10 bucks. There's you know.
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Yeah. And then you you you now you now we can schedule it. We can say I'm doing a live cleansing at 400 PM or whatever. Oh well I could do I could do cleansings. Um Yeah. Yeah. can't just not post them because Yeah. No, I get it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's just like the the healing that I do like for, you know, people who are vaccine injured and stuff that that's what I can't do. That's what I can't record. I've never done group cleansings, but um as long as I mute myself because I
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started gagging. I'm I'm I'm like a physical empath, not only an emotional empath. And so I clear through my body. Yep. And so that's good. That would be interesting. Like group clearings. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just like whatever feels like play, like endless resource. And then it feels that way to us like like we'll attract like and then it's like take my money, take my money. Not to mention every single one of those you do is an advertisement for one-on- ones
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advertisement, you know. It's just Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just getting the word out. Getting the word out. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm not good at marketing myself. I could not sell. There's this saying in Spanish that you I couldn't sell like a a bottle of Coke to somebody in dying of thirst in the desert. Like so bad. Me too. I I hate it with a white hot heat. I hate it. But your presence is I mean it's just you sell yourself like this like I'm sold. Do you know what I mean? you're
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and every every time you make an appearance, it's just like I just want to hear what Claudia has to say. I want to know what you have to do. Like you're, you know, like there you go. There's all your hearts. It's it's a no-brainer. It's like yes, every word out of that woman's mouth is valuable. Thank you. Yeah. So for me, so it's and then you're just in your resource and then you just like every single one of those is like you get you you're tuning people in like I I
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I uh I often use the the metaphor of a chorus, right? It's like it's like uh you are on pitch, right? And then everybody who's listening to you is better able to be on pitch, right? And then you and I are together and we're on pitch. And then pretty soon we got a chorus and we are so resourced and we are singing all on pitch and it is loud. Yeah. Yeah. How many people can you uh like dial in to a live stream? It's endless. Doesn't we I've had 90 before. No, but um like like actually being
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dialed in because like I I want Oh, dialed in. Oh, like this. Oh, I don't know. Randolph was looking into that. I don't know. But yeah, you could have I know. I think it's like I don't know. Randolph, let me know if you found that like like I don't know if there's a limit. It's certainly not 90, but if it's like 10, you know. Yeah. So we could get together to um to just chant mantras or something like that also. Totally. Yeah. Like and and this goes to like whatever wherever
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your resources because you're going to get into the flow, right? And now you're out of your story, right? Of scarcity of like and that money it's like it's really out of the story of money, right? And we just and then just think of Monopoly. It is just Monopoly money. It's like which is not which is not to say like you don't need to pay your your mortgage like I get it but it's like get into your resource and then the money is this bonus and the bonuses come in. It's it is like uh
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winning the lottery. It's like you're you're it's like ching ching ching ching ching because you're in resource. You're in abundance. You're you're in the stream of abundance and this cumbersome little thing that's called money that's like kind of sort of connected to abundance. I was telling Claudia before we called or before we went live that I was like I'm so I can't bear the money manifestation, you know, women and all that stuff because it's like you're
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you're worshiping the false god. But if you are tapped into goddess, if you are tapped into your resource, then this little false god can kind of come along and tag along. You can tag along. Yeah. It's not the focus, right? Because if you're focused on money, you're focused on a something unreal. But your passion is real. And then this little unreal thing that we can we can pass out as if it's real, you know, could put a number on a screen and we can whatever. Yeah. When I was at this course, it was like all
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about, you know, how you gonna make money, how you going to market yourself, how you going to do it on Instagram and da da da da da. And um and all of a sudden, I realized it's not it's not about how much money am I going to make. It's about who can I help and the money will naturally follow. That's it. And it's not even about who you can help. It's it's it's I mean it is of course because but that's what you naturally want to do. You can't tap into your source
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unless you're doing what's fulfilling for you. You can't tap into anything. And and it it will not be helpful to us unless it's joyful to you. Yeah. It's got to be, you know. Exactly. Exactly. And I just I don't know why I keep attracting people that, you know, and they they all come and they say, "Well, I don't have money." And I say, "Okay, I'll do it for free." Yes. Yes. And I spent four hours on a session kind of. Okay. So, right there. So, right there. So, that's not
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then that's not going to be joyful. There's actually there's there's it actually is because I love it. You love it. Okay. But then, you know, then afterwards I'm thinking [Music] um you know, I have to eat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, we just need you to be doing that where where people are playing with money, right? So, is it's it's a live stream. It's a um you know these group clearings and Randolph just said he's been on live streams with two to six sharing video screen and several
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thousand student to watch. Yeah. Sorry, I thought you meant just the one student. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Rand. Um, so we you just need to like h have that be an option. It just needs to be one of the open doors. You know what I mean? like like if it's just one-on-one where you're spending four hours like there's no like I get that it's joyful but there is this like but how am I going to eat versus if if if it's an open door for people to give you money and and you've
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got like a you know you've got a live stream or a group going and and there's a real like like like it's open door to like like I have this confidence. It's funny of like we will have a benefactor like there's going to be someone who just like gives money to people's trust and not that we even were going to take money but like do you know what I mean like who's just like okay whatever whatever this team needs I'm going to give them the money right and I'm going to like whenever I can and
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when I get on Tim Ferris when I get these microphones I'm going to be saying like time for the transfer time for the transfer here's here's already to give your money. Give it to Claudia. Give it to you know um uh so but you I have to I have to have to I have to I have to be talking to somebody. I have to be doing something where there's that's an option where there's not that opportunity is there. Right? I can't shut myself off from that stream coming in. Right? So so if you're
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only talking to one person and they you know they don't have any money. Do you know what I mean? There's it's it's not it's it's what I would call like you're 80% of the way there. You're not at 100% of the way there where it's like that where where the possibilities are open. Does that make sense? Um yeah. Well, I think that it's also it's also like a I I've I've always been a giver. Yeah. But I've never known how to receive because of my money story, which means
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that every time you receive money, you're indebted to that person. There we go. And you're under their control, right? And so that's that's a a really like a thing that I have been really really struggling with all my life really. Um, and then it like is specifically in the healing business, people think that if you charge, then you're a charlatan, that you're just, you know, you're just going to take their money. And then a lot of people who know me, they they'll call me
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and they'll expect it for free or they won't, you know, they won't even offer to do some sort of an exchange. But then there's people who if you don't charge them then they don't value it because that's another construct that we have in this in this society that if it's free it's useless and it's worthless right good so this is exactly it so there's all these stories you named the zero sum game right like if if somebody gives then I or what was it take and give
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right that there's I can't receive because then I'm indebted you're indebted yeah exactly Okay. Is it true when you receive that you're indebted? I know this was your story, but let's look around in nature or look around. Well, no, not in nature. But it is in society that if you receive money from somebody, you sort of have to abide by their rules if if if you agree to their terms. But there are people in the world who give gifts and don't expect anything in return. You're one of those people.
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Yeah. So, you're proving it wrong. And you love it. And you love it. Let's Let's be real clear. I I did a video once where I'm like I was like I all when it was it was when the stock started plummeting and I was I was like speaking to rich people and I was like, "Hey, you rich people who don't know what to do." I was like, "Give it away. give it all away because there's nothing more fun on God's green earth than giving away money or than giving away anything than
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giving which is why we gift economy right giving is the most fun thing ever it is so that's the truth now we have something true so now here's someone who does have money who's like can I give this to you Claudia and you would deny them the most fun thing on That's that's one of the things that like one of the really wise things that my mother said once she said um I was I was just out of my surgery and this psychologist came into my room and she said you know like how you doing and what's the thing that
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you're having the most trouble with and I said that I'm not going to be self-sufficient for a while and Um, and you know, like she started asking questions and I said, "Well, I've always I've always liked giving, but I have a very hard time receiving." And my mother said, "The joy that you feel when you give, you deny others when you don't receive." That was one of the wisest things that my mother has ever said to me. It's true. Good for you. Good for
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her. She got one. [Laughter] Hey, clocks right twice a day. Broken clocks right twice a day. Um, yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. And and then I would just exactly add that. That is natural law. Natural law is gift economy. Natural law is abundance. Nobody loses when someone else wins because there isn't there isn't someone else. It's just one. So if something in an ecosystem, something some some being in an ecosystem is thriving, it's only helping everybody else thrive. And then the birds give more to the soil, which gives
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more to the mushrooms, which gives more to the tree, which gives more to the air, which gives more to the because of course. And so the your fear and your story is blocking this natural flow. And I'm here to tell you like you're you're like you're like, you know, like you're like you should be the bank. You should be like nothing is really banked. But do you know what I mean? Like it's like you're the the the the capacity, let's say, for flow for resource in you is enormous.
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And so we should like you're one of the cups we fill first because your capacity to keep giving is enormous. We all have that capacity. But you're there because you love you already love it so much. So you're the cup to fill because you just keep doing this. Do you know what I mean? Me too. It's like somebody [ __ ] give this one a some money. Like wouldn't you want to give me money? Like Jesus [ __ ] Christ. And see that's how I feel about you. It's like give this woman give this
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woman. This is what I was saying about chaos too or just all of all of us. I'm like give this woman a microphone. Give her all the money. Give her all the microphones. It's a no [ __ ] brainer. So you know. So that is it. It's it's it's it's fill your cup. is let your let your cup be filled because you fill everyone's cup. You should be you know all those um champagne fountains you know like you're you should be on the very top because you are like literally you climb the [ __ ] mountain top. You have
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and so have I. We've climbed the mountain tops of our fields and we see the mountain top and we're like ah this is all [ __ ] Let those let those fields burn to the ground and let's all get together and give to one another. So, but we still have this fake money, so we need some resource. So, you're the top champagne flute. Pour into you and you pour into all these other people. Yeah, that sounds like a plan. That really does sound like a plan. But $500 an hour then. But how how do you how do you let go of
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that programming of you know like if I receive remember what Al says that I say right see through it and feel through it. You already did. Don't believe Don't believe that you have to like go do something fancy to get rid of that program. We already saw through it. You saw through it. We were laughing. We're laughing at the joke of it. It's a joke. Yeah. And a pretty bad one at that. It's a really bad joke. I totally This whole world is a bad joke. I'm like, are we [ __ ] kidding? Who set this thing up?
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Who set up a zero some game? We're like, men are in charge and we all fell for it at some point. It's like really Exactly. We fell for a zero comp game of competition with white men at the helm. Yeah. I'm gonna say no. It's bad. Yeah. Yeah, it's bad. But it's We're waking up. We're waking up and we and we don't we can just play the win-win game. We can just play the gift game. We can realize it's Monopoly money and we can tap into your source. And then it's so it's actually really really
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fun to do the conversion to get the $500 an hour or whatever it is from someone who who actually is so happy to give it to you. You know, like I have I have wealthy clients and they are very happy to give their money to me because they know I'm doing good things with it, you know, and they give to nonprofits or whatever. It's like, "No, I'm the best." You know what I mean? Like, give it to me. And so, they're just like, "Here, take my money." Yeah. Just um and that's another thing like calling
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them in. No, it's just like if people need hope they will come, right? Or or it's it's it's more like I don't Yeah, I don't I don't think you need to do any of that stuff either. It's just be in your abundance. Be in your resource. Be in your fulfillment. Have fun. Do what you feel like doing. That's what I did with the radio hour. It's like and it's just like poo poo poo just friends resource fun. Um more ideas. I can't It's like I cannot keep up with the
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ideas, right? It's just so so I don't know what happens. I just know I know I know more re re you you resourcing yourself you being inside source you running just being in your fulfillment it's you're going to get more of the same you being compromised you're going to get more compromise and then and then you got to just stake the claim of like let's be clear we know it's monopoly money but let's be clear in this monopoly marketplace there's no you're you're at
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the top of the game. So, whatever the healer that does something similar to you charge the best of the best, the one who charges the most, you charge more than them. No, I'm just trying. I'm just wait. Okay, so no people are like healers. They're charging like $2,000 an hour. Like just just I know. It's so crazy. I know. But that but so then but then we go back to like that's why it's I go okay $500 an hour right where whatever whatever I'm still going to give away is
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everything but picking you know so that it's not it's not offensive however but we we do need to be honest it's like the real price right like the real price for me is like 10,000 an hour the real price for you is like 10,000 an hour that's the re like if if we pretend this [ __ ] monopoly thing is real because I don't know I I wouldn't know who who else to send somebody who has cancer and is struggling from the spike protein to than you. So whatever cancer drugs they paid
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for or whatever chemotherapy they paid for or whatever the [ __ ] which is hurting them more. So pile all that together. How much is that? Yeah, but then like people who are like like who are going through cancer and they decided to go the chemo route and everything. They don't have money. I know. I know. I know. So, you keep giving stuff away for free. Well, I don't know that. I We We don't know that. We don't know that. Well, some of them. some of them. But the ones who So the ones who don't have money,
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you have your free stuff for and you're doing cleansing and you're giving away the hologram and you're doing all that. And then the ones who do will be so [ __ ] happy to give you that $1,000 an hour. I'm going to keep throwing up. He keeps going up and I'm like, where are we going to land? Where are we? I actually charge $108 an hour and I think it's too much. It's not enough. It's not enough. Tell me somebody who is better. We have to pretend the marketplace is real. Just
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enough to like set a price. Tell me somebody who's better than you. People look you look there isn't one. Tell me a better coach than me. No, I that that I can say though. Or therapist or whatever. Yeah. No. Yeah. No. No. I worked in integrative health. We like we can vouch for each other. It's like I don't Claudia. It's Claudia. And same with me. You had however many therapists or whatever. 20 years, right? So many things. So, we're we're affirming. Okay. We're at the top of the game. I don't
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see anybody else around here. So, I think we got to go we got to go higher. And why is it that so hard? Because because there's just remnants there's remnants of the old belief, right? And there's and there's this little belief that's like yeah that you're going to owe. And then I think I think what we need to do is we've seen through the thoughts. I think we got to heal through it in the body. So we got to find where it is in the body. So it's like you we're laughing and you're like,
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"Yeah, I know. I know this is true." But it doesn't feel true just yet. No, because the thought of like like going on my website and putting like 108 for me is already like a lot. Yeah. Except it's not though because it's because you exist in this fake marketplace. So we have to we're playing the f So if you put 108 up you're you're in the fake marketplace. So So we're just pret we're going like here's the fake marketplace that is artificial. Nevertheless, it
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exists and you're you're in it. You're in it. You've stepped into it. So am I. And in this fake marketplace, we know what our value is, right? As if there's such a thing as worth. As if somebody is worth more than another person. We know it's not true, but we're we're in the game. got to play the game to eat, right? Which is which is why we're over here in the people's dress doing everything else, giving things away for free because we know it's insanity. But this is the game on planet
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Earth still, right? We're still in this insane game. So if you're going to play, you got to play, right? We're on the Monopoly board. So if you're playing Monopoly, it's like, well, play to win. You know what happens to me when I play Monopoly? I have to withdraw when I'm winning. I feel so bad. I feel so like like literally I get it. My kids love to play Monopoly and if I if I start winning I'm just like yeah no I I can't play this anymore. So that's Yeah. Yeah.
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That's that's wrong. Well, it's not wrong. It's not wrong. I I mean, the whole game is like you're you're sensing you're sensing the insanity of the game and you forfeit, right? Good. Me, too. I don't even play it. I don't play games because why the [ __ ] are we playing a game? Let's go play. Let's dance. Let's make food together. Let's play the drums. Let's Let's buy Let's put our pretty clothes on. Right. Let's let's tell stories to each
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other. I don't want to play a game where somebody wins, but nevertheless, here's this game. So, I get it. So, but so, so it's sort of like it's like, well, I'm in I'm going to play Monopoly, but I'm going to play $108 worth. And it's like, well, either get out of the game entirely. Yeah. Like, but but why even bother? Right. Why even bother? Why even bother? So, then we have to we have to just play both quoteunquote games. One is the free game where we give everything away
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for free. We just do that and that feels so good and it's so great and you attract people, you know, who who are just getting healed by you and we and they never enter the Monopoly game and it's fuckingastic and that's what we're doing here, right? Thank God. And it's beautiful and it's beautiful and it's growing and it'll keep growing obviously. But over here in fake land, we got to keep a hand in. We got to we got we got cards on the table. So, you might as well go all in
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and know your value in that game. And in that game, you got the highest value of any healer I've seen. So, what's what are we looking at? I get it. 2,000 is stupid. It's like it's embarrassing. It's offensive. I'm I'm gonna I'm going to keep landing somewhere around 500. So, there's another thing. A lot of, you know, people who come to me because that's where I started and that's where I come from are from Mexico and $500 an hour for them is prohibitive.
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Okay, good. Do it do a sliding scale or do do you know rich white people whitey whitey gets $500 an hour and Mexican folks get whatever 100. Fine. Do it that way. do it that way. Okay. But I still might go a little higher. I mean, whatever you want. But what I get it. I get it. Make it really clean. You know, that's what that's what we've got with um you know, on my websites like it's me, Vasi, and Al, right? So, I'm at 500, Al's at 100, Vas's at 60 because it depend because of their different
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marketplaces. Mhm. Right. And we're all doing the same thing and different, you know, experience levels and all that. Yeah. I could do like a website for for people from Latin America and website for English speakaking people. English speaking people. Yes. Yes. And then I will send you right my rich white friends who will pay you $500. I'm like I'm like just go to Claudia, right? Yeah. Yeah. And we will send to each other. Right. Meanwhile, we're over here in the gift economy doing our thing
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economy and we're over here referring to each other. Why does it feel so uncomfortable? Just like the thought of it's it's a you're outside your comfort. So comfort is familiarity is the zero sum game is self-sacrifice is giving without receiving. So what we're doing is we're opening that virtual reality. We're opening your system. That's discomfort. That's why I was talking about whenever I was about this disorientation and your identity's got to go. It's very
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uncomfortable. But it's only uncomfortable because it's it's disorient. It's like you're you don't have any you don't have your your you know long-suffering identity of like or whatever of like whatever whatever the story is you know that you're that you're that you're used to and that you stick you've you know put a pin down there you're like I don't know what's possible and this is kind of what I was I wasn't saying very well about like it
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opens possibility because you're in this disoriented like discom uncomfortable like I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know and and it it opens you up and in in in thorough healing, you know, where when my work I'm like I'm knocking out all your belief systems. You you you don't get any you don't take anything with you. It's like it's it's it's completely uncomfortable, but you get settled in that. You get settled in that in not knowing
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and and it's so and then it's really really alive. It's really really alive and that and you get used to that aliveness. You get used to the not knowing. You get used to living off like living in freef fall and you and you are teaching yourself it's safe to live that far off from what you're used to from your from the systems and the stories that you grew up in. And we just we just need to open it in the body so that the body can feel that of like and then it cl it'll it will do like but
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what but what about you know it'll cling to comfort. Um and but it's like you just keep opening but it's like so so let's say you cling to comfort again in your comfort zone. It's not going to work. It's gonna suck. And it's gonna suck more now. And you're gonna get you're gonna get thumped upside the head again. Just Okay. Okay. So, I have two more questions. Yeah. One problem that I have always had is with being arrogant. Um, like I ran away from it like as if it were the plague, right? We
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already know that pandemics don't exist, but as if it were a pandemic. Um, and this is because when I was young, um, I used to, well, I always earned like all of these awards in school and I got bumped a grade and da da da, right? And my mother used to like all these awards and things, she would paste them on on the back side of a closet door. And a friend of hers was there and the closet door was open. And so he asked, you know, what is that? And I said, well, these are all the awards that I've won, right?
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And that night when I was falling asleep, my mother came and sat next to me and she said, "Never do that again." I see. Big stab to the heart right there. So that's one thing. Mhm. And then another thing is I always think or I've always thought that money is tied to power. And so that whenever money is involved, there's corruption. Whenever power is involved is corruption. Mhm. And so I think that that's those are like the two things that really um that really make me feel
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uncomfortable about Got it. charging in addition to that I really like to give and you know all of these things that we've been talking about. Gotcha. Gotcha. That it's it's arrogant and it's connected to corruption. Okay. Um, is it arrogant of me to charge $500? No. Why not? Because you're worth it. But that word, I know, but but it's like but this is really good because we need to articulate it. It's like because it isn't arrogance and it isn't even worthiness. It's just like
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what is it that what is it? Right. So let's let's I I don't know. Let's let's Let's identify it. What is it? Because it isn't arrogance, right? I'm not I mean me I have the same thing. It's like I don't want to be arrogant. I want to be humble. But it's like being humble or arrogant. Both are false. Both both are personas versus just being. So it's just like it's like I don't know. I'm trying to think of like a natural. It's like it's like this fruit tree.
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is producing a lot of fruit. Is it arrogant compared to the fruit tree next to it? Like comparison is the insanity, right? So that's what we're talking about like h arrogance and and humility. It's like well that that's in the land of comparison. We have to sort of take out comparison and then but we just have but we do have to talk about reality which which goes back to like the resource and the fruitfulness of of a being. Right? So here's a bunch of fruit trees. This one produces 10 times more lemons than
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the next one. you know that if that so what do we just we can just say it's more right there's more it's not arrogant it's not better it's not like it's not like the other tree couldn't produce more right like it might be that the one had more fertilizer or that it has a better sunspot or you know whatever right and and our work is to is to for every fruit tree to like make sure they have lots of sun and water right but in this moment in time you're the 10 times producing
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fruit tree. That's not arrogant. That's just and I'm here to affirm you and you are getting affirmed of like we see your fruit tree. We see that you are an extremely abundant fruit tree and that isn't corrupt, right? We It's only humans that would come in and and it's like our story of corruption, but more is just more and we're taking money and the fake money out of the system, but when we apply that cumbersome system, it's just like more money for more fruit. Yeah. I think that it's um
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um it's like I I and I think that that that's where they're two like they're tied together that I think that there's like a possibility that it will go to my head. Oh yeah. Everybody believes it. I see. And I will, you know, become this person that if I saw her, I would start to throw up. Got it. You're I'm just going to I'm just going to cut to the chase. There's not a way in hell that's going to happen. A chance in [ __ ] hell. Try it. Try try to be a greedy. You know
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what I mean? You You would make yourself sick in a in an afternoon. There's no It's not not going to be able to get away with it. Like, and this is this is just all story, right? It's like, I'm so afraid I'll I'm a you're a giraffe and I'm so afraid I'll turn into a zebra. Like, you're just it's never going to happen. It's never going to happen. Like, play that tape out. Play it out. Play it out. Imagine I put $100,000 in your bank account. Are you Are you now
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all of a sudd Let me give you a million dollars in your bank account. Are you are you quitting your job? Are you no longer going to heal people? Are you moving? No, actually I I buy I buy lottery tickets so I can heal people for free. That's what I do. I literally buy I I buy lottery tickets so I can you know I can pay my mortgage and then heal people for free. That's the truth, right? So this is this is how crazy fear fear is always fear is dumb. It's just so crazy. It's these It's the little It's the
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little kids who learned the thing and they just believed it and we we as pure adult awareness are looking at it and we're like, "Sweetheart, sweetheart, would never happen. I just want to give it all away for free." Me, too. Me, too. That's why I'm like, I'm a good bet to give up a billion dollars to because I'm just going to give it all away. I'm just gonna flip the world around. You know what I mean? Mhm. I don't I want I I don't I want no money. I literally My goal is for there
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to not be money. I'm the best person to give money to. Yeah. Because the only thing I'm going to do is make it so that there's we don't have money. Same with you. Yeah. Yeah. We could we couldn't physically do it if we tried. So this this story, right, this is this is the enslavement program. These are the fear stories that we just see right through. And the laughing is indicative. It's just it is that dumb. And there and this is why I'm constantly saying like this is not your thing. This is everybody's
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belief, right? Everybody like I' I've heard that so many times, right? I'll be corrupt or I'll be this or whatever. It's like that that's just a that's a spell. It's a [ __ ] spell and we just laugh it laugh it off. Laugh it off. It's just nothing real. And then the only thing left may be some release in the body. And by the way, laughing we're already releasing. It's a solar plexus release, you know. Yeah. It's one of the many ways to energy heal. Yeah. And it's just like really
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seeing how utterly stupid it is. It's utterly stupid. I know. It has nothing to do with reality. It doesn't map onto reality at all. There's nothing about you. It's like a hoarder of money. Like there's, do you know what I mean? Like the least psychopathic person, you know? So yeah, we just have to play it out. We just have to and this is why I'm like just look look your fear right in the face. Look at it. It's crazy. It's just not nothing's there. You know, I think of it sometimes
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like a monster under the bed or whatever, right? You just just look under the bed. It's nothing there. That's your That's the cure. Oh yeah, that's ridiculous. So yeah, and then laugh it off, you know, breathe it out. And Doc Smith is so good at reminding me of that. It's just like, oh yeah, there's a lot of exhaling and just releasing that energy that was stored tight in your in your gut, you know, but it was all lies. It was all lies. And so so then so then so then so then so then so then so then so then so
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then so then so then we can say something true which is you're the best person you know to give money to. And I will affirm that for you. Thank you. Yes. And you affirm it for me and we affirm it for everybody down here who Right. And then we affirm it inside of our commonwealthresource libraryless marketplace that the people's trust will be. It'll be a long list of people who are best people to give money to who are which are the people who are giving it away for free and who want to give it
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away for free. Yeah. Right. And then that just becomes where to source where to do the conversion from money to moneyless from stored stored energy to flowing energy because that's all this monopoly money is. It's just stored energy. It's all of our labor. It's that the concept of it, right? And then it just can be unleashed. And you're the you're you are of all the people I know right at the top of somebody to unleash. So charge Whitey $500. Okay. Yeah. I need to I really need to
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find where in my body I have this imprint. Um Yeah. And just like send the little spheres to dissolve it. Then the spheres to dissolve it. Exactly. Exactly. That's it. Exactly. Send your spheres. Do your cleansings. Embody it, you know, and breathe through it. Yep. Exactly. That's it. That's it. That's it. That'll do it. And you're right. You're just right there. It's just It's literally just like the tail end of it. We already We already saw through it. It's already on its way out. And then
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you'll just breathe it out, clear it out, sphere it out. Yep. Yep. Cool. Cool. And I'll promote the hell out of you. Oh boy. Okay. Yeah, I have to start breathing now. I just held my breath for an hour and a half. Been there. Been there. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Here we go. Just breathe. Breathe together. It was a lot. We We moved through it all. And what a public service that was because ain't nobody without this this one. Vosby says, "Thank you for this. So so inspiring." Thank you,
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Vasi. Thank you all for being here. Miriam says, "I'm the same as Claudia, a giver who has a hard time receiving, but we're we got it. We can see it through it. Uh so exactly Miriam, same thing, right? Just give her the money. Give her money. Give that woman a microphone. Give that woman a lot of money. Give her all your money and all your microphones. Yeah. And there's nobody on here who hasn't been this that, right? Like and this is I mean we are we're doing it. We are reversing the tide. We
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are reversing the tide. So every dollar you get reverses the tide energetically and and physically. Just have to go back to being babies. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. When we were babies, we really knew how to receive. Oh, yeah. Exactly. That's so true. That's beautiful. Yep. And we are still babies. We're our body's just a baby. Just the sweetest little baby. So innocent. So just completely open to receiving. That's all she wants to do. She's just like, "How about this? How about this?
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How about this?" Yeah. I I thought about it and it would be really nice not to have to do everything on my own, right? Um Yes. Me too. Exactly. How nice would it be? Yeah. 100%. Exactly. Yep. Yep. Yep. And so nice for the people who get it to be able to support you. Like that gives them per your mother was right. But I want to add like it gives them purpose. There are I would say 99 point well anybody who's a billionaire zero purpose. They don't have purpose. They've lost their souls. And then
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anybody of the ultra wealthy class, multi-millionaires, 99.5% of them don't have real purpose, right? They don't have they don't have a hearts heart purpose. Yeah. They just accumulate money for the purpose of accumulating money. Yes. I'm I'm like I you know I keep I keep poking at poking at the people I poke at because I'm like I'm actually I'm what I'm actually doing. I'm not asking for I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm bothering you and I'm calling your
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ass out in public because I actually want to save your soul. This this is actually it. It's like to to give some give to someone who's a giver, who is unleashing source power. There's no better purpose than that. and they spent their lives pursuing money. It was just dead. It's a death cult. And there's they feel dead. They look dead. I've seen them. They are corpses walking around. So, what do you think is like the turning point? Like, okay. So, I'm never going to be that wealthy. Um, you
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know, like multi-million, whatever. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What's the turning point where they lose their soul? the they built it from soul. Like you can't get to that there's there's a couple people who I would say are like they just they just knew I got to play the game and they and they give away as much money as they can and they you know but they're still in the trap. It's the nonprofit it's the money make the corporate nonprofit trap
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is a real trap where whereas we exist outside of that right so outside of the system so it's even better. Um, so I can't speak for all of them obviously, but many of them they lost it before they even started, right? So they just it was sociopathic, psychopathic from being their only goal, right? Because that's the only goal and that's the only thing they know. And most people like imagine you're brought up in the bubble of the ultra wealthy. There's no other value. It's and they're just they're
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they're just it's pure fear and pain perpetuating the money because they because it's just all fear. It's like they're that they think their money is going to save them. They don't they are so blind. They are so blind to reality. So yeah. So completely this is why I was this is why I was laughing. I was like there's no possible way in hell. You couldn't you are you are in another stratosphere. Um that that was that was the purpose of my question. Like is there a danger that I will get to the
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point where I will lose my soul? That's like my you know um you can't you you you you are so in touch with your soul you are you know and and I'm I'm I'm in a way what we're doing is I'm asking you to to be even more in touch with your soul meaning claim claim how claim how pure your soul is like those of so people have said to me I mean I never thought I had I thought everybody else's soul was as pure as mine, which is why I kept falling for narcissists, right? So, but then I had people say to
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me like they knew like my old cult leader, they were like, "Yeah, you were too pure for her." Like she like we knew. And I was like, "Oh, it never occurred to me. It never occurred to me that she didn't wish me well. It never occurred to me that she didn't want to help humanity. It never occurred to me." But she never did. She was never she and and now when I look back, I'm like, "Oh my god, it was so obvious." She was always It was always her pain running
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the show. And so, so those of us in Pure Soul, we go, "Well, what if what if it's me?" You know, it's like we don't, you know, and it's like, "No, no, darling. No." And that and all you can do is you can just show that to yourself. You can just like I I know I can say that over and over to you, but you you see the purity in me and I see it in you so we can affirm for each other, you know? Yeah. Because it's hard like I everything every time something happens
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the first qu the first question that h that comes into my mind is what did I do wrong? I do Yeah. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. Like where did I [ __ ] up? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes it's not it has it doesn't even have anything to do with me, right? But that's like the first thing that will pop into my head. Yeah. Yeah. And um and I also tend to see, you know, or I try. No, not I don't try. I always see like the good in people. Yeah. Me too. Right. And this is why I'm like I'm like all these folks
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who are lost souls who are who are believe in the god of money and who are gone, you know, far away. They all can be healed. They all can be woken up. It's just a spell. And it's literally a spell where you can be like, I'm like, "Money doesn't exist." Hey, hey, hey. Come here. Come here. Come sit with me. Come here. Hi. Money doesn't exist. Have you noticed money doesn't exist? You're absolutely miserable. Here, have a sandwich. That exists. Eat a [ __ ] pastrami sandwich
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or something. So, yeah. Oh my god. So, I'm gonna start snorting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But but in just in terms of spectrum, like in terms of spectrum, like you're way we're way over here. We're way over here on purehearted, just want to give our our our we literally are tapped into source, tapped into pure resource, getting downloads of [ __ ] quantum tech to heal people. Do you know like this is not you're the You know, I don't I don't like these spiritual terms, but on
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TikTok, they they they use these terms and it'll be like I don't there's nothing special. It's like I hate all specialness, right? It's not specialness. However, because everybody can, but it's like but you've been purified. You are you have been purified and you are you are very pure. Say that's pure gold, right? So the p the level of purity in your gold is is very clean and you are you have this direct line and you just want to give and when those who are who are it's quite dirty it's quite mixed
01:37:23
it's quite unrefined it's quite brutal when they give to you when they wake up enough to see how much value how much how much resource is here that this is where to put their right you help refine them, right? Every every every every connection with you, you clean you your energy literally cleans them. You are a living smudge stick. [Laughter] I just myself feel I feel like cleansed. I was like, "Oh, I got to hang out with Claudia for an hour and a half." I'm [ __ ] good. I'm
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good. The opposite of uh you know having entities and all that. So anyway, so the I mean who's better who is better to give to than you? So another thing like people who are trying to profit like okay so there's people who are trying to you know like oh like detox from the spike protein and da da and they sell you these supplements and stuff that in my opinion in my humble opinion they don't work. um they're not, you know, I could tell you many reasons why. Um but um and they're
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selling it for $70 a bottle and you have to take it for 12 months and d and so it's like this thing that they're trying to profit from human suffering. Yep. And so that's another thing that that's sort of like you know like but you are not and so what where better to put money than with you right we're taking the blood money and we're cleansing it. Yeah but if I'm charging a lot of money isn't that the same thing like profiting from human suffering. No you are you are converting it. You are
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converting it. You're not profiting. They they are profiting from you. They are. And this goes back to like the zero sum game. In our world, both people win. You and Meaning in reality, in natural laws, both people win. Because I'm not tricking them. You're not tricking them. It's not a zero sum. That's there's not a taker and a giver. There's both both people receive. Okay. Yeah. That's the difference that that's the difference. If sometimes my father used to tell me, "Sweetie, I
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don't know how being so intelligent you could be so stupid." And I just realized why. But this is the purity of soul. It's like it's that it's it's it's we can't I mean we don't because we're pure of soul and Randolph is affirming. He says yes. Purity of soul is always reading from you too. I'm the same. It's like I I I'm fell for the cult leader. I can't believe it. And yet it says a lot about my character. I can't I I It's like I I don't I never imagine someone's
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tricking me because I don't trick people. Exactly. I never imagined like people wanting to take advantage of me because it would never ever cross my mind to do something like that somebody else and I can't I know and I can't understand how people can sleep at night. Yeah, they are. That's is why I use words like vampires and zombie. They are law they are just gone. You know, I've met a few of these folks, you know, uh in my work and otherwise in in just in life and they are they are
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lost souls. They are they are they believe it. They believe the game. They believe and they they are in pain. They it's just pure pain. They are in hell. They are living literally living in hell. And then the system, this money system is the hell, right? It's like they they bought into the system. and they bought into the whole thing and then now we're talking about converting it. It's from he hell to heaven of like we just are helping each other. We're just gifting to each other
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and they they have they have the benefit of being in touch with you. You convert it, right? You're the alchemist. It's alchemy. Lead led to gold. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How how do you um like just recently um actually after like the first two times that I was on your show, two people have tried to embezzle me by saying, you know, oh my god, you have such a nice personality and da da da and I, you know, would you like to be my friend on Facebook and been there. I fell for so many things
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and I fell for both of them and I'm like really like how how but we're there now. Like I get it. Can we weed them out? Like is there a way like you are? Yeah. I mean you could do a cleansing or whatever but but this is it. We are weeding them out right now because we're more conscious, right? every time you fall for it and and you're and like and like once you see it, it's it's just like seeing through the matrix. Like now if you got a message like that, you'll you'll have
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seen through it. No, but the thing is that I've gotten them like in these past few weeks and I know I know through them, right? I mean, I know I did see through them on time before they, you know, but um but you're already you're already I'm I'm just saying like it this this awakening up it happens fast and you and you can get to this point where you're just like like I don't I can't like well how do I say I've been I've been right there where um when I was leaving when I was leaving
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this cult I had to like I think I've shared some of it but I had to like I had to literally escaped my own home. Um, I had to live in a hotel for 3 weeks. Um, it was all fascinating, but in that time it was like, so I'm leaving. Let's just let's just say I'm leaving the devil. So the devil's the devil's got her I'm I'm escaping from her clutches, right? So So in in her for, right? Like that the devil's in her and then it's also in all these other people. So, as soon
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as I left, this is very similar. It was like all these scams came and uh and I fell for several of them and and then it was like, "Oh my god, that's it's it's the it's the same pattern." And if you just think of it energetically, it's that on your way out, right? They're trying to push you back in fear, the devil, whatever, the energy, the vampires, right? And they they come in packed, right? Oh, yeah. They do. They do. And you have to think like she was just one
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of the puppets and then there's all these other puppets, right? And so energetically and spiritually it was like we're losing her, we're losing her, we're losing her. So, right. And so now, now that it's been a while and I found my way through and I haven't, you know, nobody's nobody's made a play at me for a while. And then I, you know, it was like meeting Zack and I was like, "Oh, there's another devil." And I I'd fallen for him, right? And and and then it
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would be like another batch. But now they don't come for me. And sometime once in a while they'll come energetically like I'll I'll feel like it's not really an attack anymore. It's just like a it's like a pull. Like I can just feel my energy like this, you know? Um and but then I come into my being. I I maybe like uh little bit of cannabis helps my it's my medicine that I can just feel it just will start to just it's like it's like the the um the helper of cannabis just like un unravels
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them. Um and then just me just awareness being in my body will just make my light really robust and then they just shrivel away. So whatever you want to do your cleanses, your spheres, all of that. Um, but it's a good sign. It's like there's a lot of scrambling. It's like the sales guy put the final pitches like, you know, but she's not she's not buying anything. Okay, what do we We're going to give her give her the 20% discount. Give her the 50% discount and give her the toaster for
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free and, you know, knock louder and put on your best suit. Yeah. Like I I take that as confirmation that what I'm doing is good because otherwise they would just not bother. They would not bother, you know, just let her, you know, let her continue. She's no threat. She's no threat to the system. She's no threat to the devil's work. She's no threat to the hellscape that we have very cult carefully cultivated 100%. And then all of it, right? It's like they they they couldn't kill because because as as the
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Bible says, touch not my anointed. Doesn't [ __ ] work. So that's and you, as I've said, we anoint ourselves. We are we are, you know, it's not like there's some God in the sky that does this. We are we are her. But we we the pure of heart. We're going all the way. We're not going to. It's like It's like again like pretend pretend for a second that you would bail out and like go work for the devil again. You're not gonna You just can't. You literally can't do
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it. I We would both rather die. Oh, I Yeah. Like No. No [ __ ] way. No [ __ ] way. Ever. Yeah. Ever. Yeah. So, we're free. That's what sovereignty is. I don't like You can't sell me on your [ __ ] I my my soul is not for sale. And you know this is not if there's anybody who's Christian who is listening to this, this is in no way meant to disrespect them. But how do you deal with people who tell you Christian people who tell you that what you are doing is not of God? I don't talk to them at all. I give them.
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I got no time for any religion. I got time for Christ consciousness, but I want to know. I I'm like, we know what Jesus knew. So, what do I need a religion for? I got no time for you. I do not respect your your beliefs because this isn't about belief. This is about reality. And reality is oneness. Reality is I and my father are one. So I don't have any I don't got they don't they don't get the time of day for me. Yeah. It's just it happened. It's happened three times lately. Yep. That's
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just another It's just another finger of the devil's puppet there. Yeah. They even to like an eight long page email telling all of the passages on the Bible where what I do. Yeah. I'm defiling others. I am, you know, like with the devil in a in a, you know, like it was like, oh my god, it felt like a and and this was from a person that was really close to me. Sorry. And [Music] um and yeah, like I I answered him and I said, "How like you know my story." Yeah. You know that I have dedicated the past 20
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years to keeping my children protected from dark magic. Yeah. And helping others get rid of black magic. You You know that story. How can you even think? You know my heart. How can you even think? I know that I would defile someone. I know. I know. Like that word defi. I know. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I've just I've been there. I've been there where the projections from my friends who know me, I can't believe it. But you are a threat to where they're still holding
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on to their story, to their fear, right? They think they're safe in their Christian belief system. They sold their soul to a story, right? And so it's like it's it's it's only it's it's your story. Do you want your story or do you want truth? Do you want fear or reality? And people will choose their fear until they don't. And so we cannot indulge. We can't like just energetic. It's like it's just like they're in hell. They're they're in the hell. They are in their
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own hell. And I don't you know I mean my door is open for when you when you want when you are ready for me to talk to you, you know, but I'm not like I'm not taking uh I'm not interested in your opinion. I didn't ask. I'm good. I'm good. Yeah. And then this really nice lady um she came to the to the sessions twice and she started feeling she was she's really really really sensitive to shedding and then she you know I sent her the crystals and um and so she posted she's
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from a vac shedding group and she posted that she was feeling really like really um bad and um you know like a lot of symptoms and whatnot and um that she had taken the supplement and that it only made it worse. And so I contact her contacted her directly. And I I asked her, "Are you using the crystals yet?" And she said, "No, I I spoke to this guy who, you know, does Bible study over Zoom and he told me that um that I can't because Christians can't use crystals or candles."
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And you know, I And she's really as if as if as if as if I mean, oh my god, they just stole everything. It's all so dumb. It's all so dumb. And they and she's a really nice person. Yeah. Like a really nice person. And she's very respectful and everything. And it's just like it makes me so sad. It is heartbreaking. I know because I even told her like then why does why does like why do Christians allow you to take pharmaceuticals? because pharmaceuticals didn't exist when the Bible was written.
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So why is that okay? Yeah. But you're going to you're going to try to use something other than like they're in she's just in her story, right? She's in the spell. So if you you you know if somebody's in a spell like they got that virtual reality helmet on and you're like knocking on the helmet and they're just they're just running their program. They're just in their helmet and that I mean we've all been there. We've all been inside of a spell and we can't see what's true.
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And is there any way like to I don't know help them? I mean, it sounds super arrogant, but um be be in I mean, if these are friends, you know, it's like just be in your be in your flow. Be in your It's not arrogant though, right? Just be in your flow. Like just shine your light. Just do your thing and it'll you'll be an attractor state. You'll be in this right for when they're ready. You can think of it like like also just that tree ripening. You you just keep, you know, giving your
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lemons and they're the tree nearby that's getting some fertilizer from that. And there will be a time where they're ripe, right? Where there's some potentially I don't know. We don't know. That's not that's not our business, right? But but we can be a we can be a lighthouse. And um and I've noticed I'm there's friends of mine who've been, you know, in the background like like I haven't been in touch with, but they're like showing up to the live stream and
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then like leaving and they're like it's like a little, you know, they're they're put dipping their toe in. Great. Great. But until they're not running their story and it's mutual, right? It's like you don't want me to talk to you until you're ready for me to pop pop your story, right? And so so you're getting these people throwing up on you and throwing their story. It's like it's like they they're not ready for their story to be popped. So you you guys
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don't have any you don't you got no business together. You got no you're you're living in completely different things. You're in reality. They're in their story. So you got nothing to talk about. You got nothing in common. Not yet. Not yet. Yeah. Yeah. All right. We do have to wrap up because I've got a Okay. Sorry. call with my kiddo. Let's see. Everybody says, "My soul is not for sale because there is nothing anybody can give me that comes close to the life that she freely gives me."
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Randolph says, "Exactly." Jennifer, beautiful. Miriam says, "I've had the Christians attacking me on Substack, too." Yeah, me too. I've had him had him come my way. Needed to hear this right now. Y'all are amazing. Thank you, Jojo. Purity of soul is radiating from the two of you. Thank you for inspiring me, both of you. Thank you for inspiring us, Fasi. Beautiful. Thanks all everybody. What a lovely conversation. Thank you. Thank you as usual always. Thank you. Thank you. Awesome. Thank
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you. We'll we'll just keep doing this. But we don't but like huge breakthroughs today. Huge. I mean and everybody's be held. It's just going to be great. Yes. And um and I'll be right here ready to um promote your house 500,000 an hour. Whatever. Let's just let's just let's just start at 500 maybe. Anyway, let's go low. Let's go low. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. We'll start low. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. It is always so much
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fun and so enlightening to Totally. I feel the same. Thank you. Thank you for healing me, too. All right. See everybody tomorrow. Doc Oh, no. Tomorrow's Q&A. Thursday is Doc Smith back and Friday we're off. Bye.